Politicks

Views from the Dark Side

September 17, 2008

So I work in an environment where there are a lot of wealthy and professional women. Some are both.

I took the opportunity to ask one woman, who works in the medical profession, what she thought about Sarah Palin. After the initial hysteria involving Mrs. Palin’s religious affiliation and FREAKY beliefs, “SHE’S FROM A CHURCH THAT SPEAKS IN TONGUES! How can she be representative of the people or this country?!!?!” the story came out that this highly educated woman doesn’t see that Mrs. Palin will support the things that matter most to Ms. Doctor.

Universal healthcare. According to this woman it is a “basic right” that should be handed carte blanche to every person in our country. Hell, she paid well over $26,000 in taxes alone last year and doesn’t mind that number increasing if the less fortunate can benefit from her money. She favored public education. Again this was adamantly proclaimed as a “basic right” and not a privilege.

Passionate, intense… I was impressed by her, um, veracity. Even though the gaps in her logic were gaping.

As a self-professed “christian” (to use terms she would understand), married, conservative (though more libertarian than anything) homeschooling, self-employed, un-insured American woman…. I obviously differed with her on many points.

Since her dollars pay my paycheck, I smiled cordially, asked a few more questions, supported the concept of how lovely it would be if health care were free and proceeded to let her continue to talk.

Did I mention she was extremely, vocally, UNBELIEVABLY aware of her position and how important it was?

She’s voting for Obama. For he is intelligent, well-educated and understands global politics. So she says. When I casually asked about his voting record and the similarities noted between himself and McCain’t?

We changed subjects.

When I asked her how she thought the Canadian health care system had fared in it’s implementation of universal health care?

We changed subjects.

When I expressed I wasn’t overly impressed with anyone out there?

She shared her disappointment that Obama hadn’t chosen Hillary. Although Biden is a “seasoned” member of the government and worthy of respect because he has so much “experience”.

I changed subjects.

As I continued sweeping out the office and getting ready to leave one of the wealthy women (she drives her Jag to the barn… it’s her barn car… It’s a new Jag.) said this to me… “If you really want to help out and get behind a cause you should go volunteer at the Obama campaign here in town.”

Lovely woman. I’m sure she meant well. I thanked her for the suggestion and happily headed home.

Me. Volunteering at an Obama campaign thingie.

BWAH HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That’s rich.

  • Pablo

    It’s typical of liberals: they really “feel” that they’re absolutely right but they can’t support their positions logically. That’s because they can’t. They’re always short on facts but full of strong opinions. This is invariably true.

    I’m back at university and I was listening to one of my teachers rail at how it’s unfair how some people don’t pay taxes (the context made it clear he was talking about “the rich”…here in Canada…”the rich”…do we even have those here?). Anyways, I pointed out to him that much like the United States, most low-income families pay absolutely no taxes in this country once everything is factored in. He stood there stunned, surprised that anyone would say anything to that effect, but he wasn’t prepared for what I said next:
    “Sir, I don’t think we should discriminate against people like that just because they don’t pay taxes” (and I added a hurt look…oh it was precious!)

    “Oh no,” he assurred me, “I’m talking about the rich who pay no taxes!”

    Then I asked him where I could find the data that proved the rich don’t pay taxes, so that I could argue against people of a conservative bent (all while keeping a straight face!). Sadly, he informed us, such figures aren’t kept anywhere, but everyone knows it’s true.

    A university professor backing up an assertion with “everyone knows it’s true”.

    Hilarious and sad at the same time. And typically liberal.

  • Pablo

    It’s typical of liberals: they really “feel” that they’re absolutely right but they can’t support their positions logically. That’s because they can’t. They’re always short on facts but full of strong opinions. This is invariably true.

    I’m back at university and I was listening to one of my teachers rail at how it’s unfair how some people don’t pay taxes (the context made it clear he was talking about “the rich”…here in Canada…”the rich”…do we even have those here?). Anyways, I pointed out to him that much like the United States, most low-income families pay absolutely no taxes in this country once everything is factored in. He stood there stunned, surprised that anyone would say anything to that effect, but he wasn’t prepared for what I said next:
    “Sir, I don’t think we should discriminate against people like that just because they don’t pay taxes” (and I added a hurt look…oh it was precious!)

    “Oh no,” he assurred me, “I’m talking about the rich who pay no taxes!”

    Then I asked him where I could find the data that proved the rich don’t pay taxes, so that I could argue against people of a conservative bent (all while keeping a straight face!). Sadly, he informed us, such figures aren’t kept anywhere, but everyone knows it’s true.

    A university professor backing up an assertion with “everyone knows it’s true”.

    Hilarious and sad at the same time. And typically liberal.

  • That was awesome Pablo. I had a lib professor in college like that, I wish I could think on my feet like you did.

  • That was awesome Pablo. I had a lib professor in college like that, I wish I could think on my feet like you did.

  • Jason

    Rush Limbaugh made an excellent point about Sarah Palin.

    He said the reason liberals hate her so much is because she’s actually what they want in a woman candidate. She’s strong-willed, articulate, attractive, professional, successful, etc. She has surpassed her husband professionally (in terms of status), is raising a family, and has an independent spirit.

    Limbaugh pointed out that Palin is the perfect example of true feminism (which he describes as woman having the freedom to make her own choices without her husband controlling her). With the support of her husband (which irritates libs even more because they can’t use the conservative, Christian argument of their family being traditional and controlled by the man), she’s been able to do what she wants in life, both personally and professionally. She connects with the “real” working American, and represents more of what American families are really about than Obama, or Hillary Clinton.

    Think about it: If Clinton was half as genuine and had a personality most people could relate with, I bet you anything she’d be the candidate instead of Obama.

    I love how the only argument most people make against Palin is that she’s not qualified. Not Qualified? Are you serious? How the hell is Obama more qualified? He spent several years as a state senator in Illinois, and then the past three as a U.S. Senator, of which he spent most of his time campaigning for President. To argue that Obama somehow has more experience is ludicrous and insidious at best!

  • Jason

    Rush Limbaugh made an excellent point about Sarah Palin.

    He said the reason liberals hate her so much is because she’s actually what they want in a woman candidate. She’s strong-willed, articulate, attractive, professional, successful, etc. She has surpassed her husband professionally (in terms of status), is raising a family, and has an independent spirit.

    Limbaugh pointed out that Palin is the perfect example of true feminism (which he describes as woman having the freedom to make her own choices without her husband controlling her). With the support of her husband (which irritates libs even more because they can’t use the conservative, Christian argument of their family being traditional and controlled by the man), she’s been able to do what she wants in life, both personally and professionally. She connects with the “real” working American, and represents more of what American families are really about than Obama, or Hillary Clinton.

    Think about it: If Clinton was half as genuine and had a personality most people could relate with, I bet you anything she’d be the candidate instead of Obama.

    I love how the only argument most people make against Palin is that she’s not qualified. Not Qualified? Are you serious? How the hell is Obama more qualified? He spent several years as a state senator in Illinois, and then the past three as a U.S. Senator, of which he spent most of his time campaigning for President. To argue that Obama somehow has more experience is ludicrous and insidious at best!

  • Jason

    Rush Limbaugh made an excellent point about Sarah Palin.

    He said the reason liberals hate her so much is because she’s actually what they want in a woman candidate. She’s strong-willed, articulate, attractive, professional, successful, etc. She has surpassed her husband professionally (in terms of status), is raising a family, and has an independent spirit.

    Limbaugh pointed out that Palin is the perfect example of true feminism (which he describes as woman having the freedom to make her own choices without her husband controlling her). With the support of her husband (which irritates libs even more because they can’t use the conservative, Christian argument of their family being traditional and controlled by the man), she’s been able to do what she wants in life, both personally and professionally. She connects with the “real” working American, and represents more of what American families are really about than Obama, or Hillary Clinton.

    Think about it: If Clinton was half as genuine and had a personality most people could relate with, I bet you anything she’d be the candidate instead of Obama.

    I love how the only argument most people make against Palin is that she’s not qualified. Not Qualified? Are you serious? How the hell is Obama more qualified? He spent several years as a state senator in Illinois, and then the past three as a U.S. Senator, of which he spent most of his time campaigning for President. To argue that Obama somehow has more experience is ludicrous and insidious at best!

  • You need to volunteer. WE (the vast right wing conspiracy) need a man on the inside.

  • Jason

    For those of you who don’t know me (like Heidi and the Mr.), I spent nearly 10-years as a news reporter and anchor in TV.

    I had always seen a liberal bent in most of my colleagues, but the following report is quite revealing:

    http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf

  • Jason

    For those of you who don’t know me (like Heidi and the Mr.), I spent nearly 10-years as a news reporter and anchor in TV.

    I had always seen a liberal bent in most of my colleagues, but the following report is quite revealing:

    http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf

  • He said the reason liberals hate her so much is because she’s actually what they want in a woman candidate.

    That’s close, Jason, but I think it would be more accurate to say that Palin is everything liberal women wish they were. As you said, she is an attractive and capable woman who has seemingly succeeded at everything, and liberal women are envious of her. They fall way short by comparison, and they know it, and that drives them crazy. In my opinion, the backlash we are seeing is nothing more than old-fashioned cattiness on a national scale.

  • He said the reason liberals hate her so much is because she’s actually what they want in a woman candidate.

    That’s close, Jason, but I think it would be more accurate to say that Palin is everything liberal women wish they were. As you said, she is an attractive and capable woman who has seemingly succeeded at everything, and liberal women are envious of her. They fall way short by comparison, and they know it, and that drives them crazy. In my opinion, the backlash we are seeing is nothing more than old-fashioned cattiness on a national scale.

  • Spacebunny

    Pablo – that was brilliant and I second what Giraffe said about being able to think on his feet.

    I’m not a Palin fan (not being enamoured of ANY of the candidates on either side) but I will say this. When I have the news on in the background at the end of the day her voice does not make me reach for the remote the way The Lizard Queen’s does.

  • heidi

    Pablo, you are the MAN. That’s awesome. I could see the hurt look. Did you tilt your head, ever so slightly, to the right? I wish I could think that quickly. It always comes to me around 4:30AM. Argh.

    Jason, I think the only people who don’t know about media bias are the media.

    And about Palin/Hillary? The machines always envy the humans and seek to destroy them!. Hasn’t BSG taught us anything?

  • heidi

    Pablo, you are the MAN. That’s awesome. I could see the hurt look. Did you tilt your head, ever so slightly, to the right? I wish I could think that quickly. It always comes to me around 4:30AM. Argh.

    Jason, I think the only people who don’t know about media bias are the media.

    And about Palin/Hillary? The machines always envy the humans and seek to destroy them!. Hasn’t BSG taught us anything?

  • Jason

    Triton,

    Good point.

    Heidi,

    I couldn’t agree more!

  • Jason

    Triton,

    Good point.

    Heidi,

    I couldn’t agree more!